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November 15, 2012
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In our continuous effort to improve the deviantART experience, we're publishing weekly Site Updates to keep members informed and to gather feedback. Below is a list of recent changes to the site, bug fixes, and feedback that was brought up by members in the last Site Update.

What's New

Thumbnail Size Testing, Part 2 (Beta Testers)

In addition to the feedback we gathered from Beta Testers on the size testing tool, this week we're continuing our research by implementing a test that randomly assigns Beta Testers a different size for viewing thumbnails. 

The New Comments

We've upgraded comments, allowing you to easily add formatting and media to comments. You can now pull in images to your comments and then draw on those images using deviantART muro! This new feature, powered by Writer, makes collaboration in even better!

Screen Shot 2012-11-16 at 10.23.26 AM by $danlev

Change Log

  • The "Add Comment" button would disappear when replying to comments on a deviation. Fixed by shadowhand
  • The Group Info button on some Groups pages was briefly not prompting the info to appear. Fixed by Nodren
  • When creating a new forum thread, the preview button was not working. Fixed by shadowhand
  • On Group blogs, the pencil menu for moderating comments was not available to Group administrators. Fixed by kemayo and yury-n
  • The Message Center would appear blank for a short period of time on mobile devices. Fixed by shadowhand
  • Several modals were not opening or would display as broken. Fixed by Nodren, aMoniker and kemayo
  • Messaging was inconsistent on the error pages of deactivated and banned accounts. Fixed by yury-n
  • On the mobile site, the top header would cause overflow on some sections of the site. Fixed by shadowhand
  • For Opera web browsers, the "Send a Note" modal did not acknowledge that a note was sent. Fixed by shahyarg
  • The "blocked users" form on the settings page had unnecessary extra space. Fixed by aMoniker
  • Some Groups with a very high number of Gallery folders were unable to change settings on the Manage Members page. Fixed by randomduck
  • The Prints Submission page had some cosmetic issues. Fixed by yury-n
  • Notes folders were slow to load in Chrome. Fixed by shadowhand
  • Filetype restrictions were changed on some categories in the Contests and Resources galleries. Fixed by aMoniker
  • In some instances, the "To:" field was not automatically filled when sending a Note via profile. Fixed by shadowhand
  • The shadows on literature thumbnails were misaligned on Group gallery pages. Fixed by shahyarg

More Like This

  • The More Like This thumbnail hover button's behavior has been improved for tablet devices. Fixed by helloandre

deviantART muro

  • Errors would sometimes occur when a new drawing was started and the first autosave was attempted. Fixed by mudimba
  • Using muro in comments sometimes caused a benign javascript error. Fixed by mudimba

  • Stacks with a large amount of items in them would sometimes not delete properly. Fixed by kouiskas
  • Broken-looking contest banners would appear on items that were saved with a contest category set. Fixed by kouiskas Writer

  • Group journal RSS feeds contained unapproved entries instead of entries submitted through Writer. Fixed by kemayo
  • Group journals had a hard-to-trigger case where approving an entry to appear in one Group would also approve it for other Groups it had been submitted to. Fixed by kemayo
  • Dragging and dropping from the Writer sidebar would cause scrolling issues. Fixed by Alisey
  • For Windows users on Chrome, blocks of text followed by
    could not be deleted using backspace. Fixed by Alisey
  • Image tags would display for artwork in thumbnails. Fixed by Alisey

Your Feedback

Thanks very much for the feedback left on last week's Site Update! Here's some of what you had to say.
  • Several members mentioned that they don't change their page settings particularly often, though some mentioned that their deviantID or avatar may change based on mood or changes in the style of art they create.
  • Members would like to be able to sort stacks in their message center based on how many messages are in each stack. Suggested by GospodinP
  • Some deviants would like to be able to mark messages in their Message Center as read. Suggested by Jjaystar94
  • Deviants would like animation frame support for deviantART muro. Suggested by Krissi001
  • Some members would like to have an "Invite to Group" button on profiles, to make inviting deviants an easier process. Suggested by Sarah-BK


Commissions are a common activity on deviantART where a client will pay an artist in exchange for creating a unique piece of artwork for them. We're curious about how you use or take commissions on deviantART. If you accept or purchase commissions, we'd love to hear from you.
  • For artists, what type of prices do you normally charge? 
  • How do you prefer to pay or receive payments? 
  • How many commission "slots" do you typically have open at a time?
  • How do you prefer to communicate between artist and client? Via deviantART Notes? Email? IM?

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This week's Site Update includes a thumbnail test for Beta Testers and a new way to comment on files in!
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rontufox Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I like the new stash comments, it's really helpful for critique and red lining and such. I just wish the feature didn't activate every time I click to comment as it's cumbersome and unnecessary if I simply want to write. It would be more convenient if a button activated the feature.
RaspingHerWords Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
I'd say adding a feature that when you search for something in the Forums, you can categorize the search results by newest to oldest.
maxvision Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THumbnails are not working.
FadingNinja Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
How do you put a thumbnail of a picture at the top of your story that you submit to dA through stash writer? And I don't mean inside the actual story. I found a tutorial but it was out of date. I also know you can do so by clicking 'submit art' and going through the process there, but I'd rather have the ability to put a preview image on my story in writer so I don't have to mess around with the html codes and all that crap.
moonman169 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
wiat so does that mean the muro packs are no longer available? :o
wreckling Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012   Writer
The brushes are free for everyone to use now. There'll be an article posted about it in a bit. :)
moonman169 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
oh cool thank you
Aniusia483 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
* For artists, what type of prices do you normally charge?
Now I'm very cheap, the price depends on the style and content: for now these are sketches, because I'm far too slow with full-detaled works, so it's like 65p for 1 dragon headshot without shading and up. Full detailed full body character without bg is 1000p for now(+ additional payment for markings, that depend on their complexity). But I'd rather prefer to earn like 150$ for the character (it's still not 5$ per hour, because one haracter takes me FAR longer than 10hours). But people are poor so it's nice to offer things thay can afford^^

* How do you prefer to pay or receive payments?
I've just created my PayPal account... so I don't know yet. I I think sending DA points is easier for the commissioners (PayPal may be scary for those who've never used it before). But I'd like to get real money for my work... so it would be great if DA allowed to exchange points into money, not only vice-versa... I think that could encourage people to use points more frequently (e.g. more artists would accept point commissions - now the best artists never agree for points, because "they won't pay their bills"). You say points on DA are like € in EU, $ in USA, etc. so if € and $ can be transferred into each other, why points can;t be trandferred into $ or € etc.?
And I want to be pre-paid. I don't want to worry if the customer will or won't pay me later after I make all the job.

* How many commission "slots" do you typically have open at a time?
About 5 for sketch commissions (depends on if they are headshots or full bodies), and 1 for full detailed.

* How do you prefer to communicate between artist and client? Via deviantART Notes? Email? IM?

Via comments(for ordering) and Note(for sending wips etc.)... if there only was a possibility to search notes via user:( (If e.g. a commissioner asked for a commission a few month ago. They haven't payed yet because we were still discussing the details so I could tell them the final price. Then they lose their access to internet e.g. it's broken down. Months pasts, I get many new notel all the time, and the correspondence sinks somewhere between page 10th and 90th... and now I can't find it! And I don't have time for digging) e.g. if I need the customer to check the progress and make me more suggestions, or just to ask if I do well in the real time.
Lots and lots of users commented negatively (14,000+) on the new submit page which is now in its second enforced month of testing...
Az0thPain Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
The new thumbnail size is best larger. I have also noticed this week that browsing on mobile site and go into pictures the picture on the clients site is way to small now on mobile and can't see the pic
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