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Thumbnail Size Test, Part 2

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 4:47 PM
Thank you! This test has now concluded and been updated. You can read more about the test in the Thumbnail Size Testing Tool article.

Please note: This change applies only to the Beta Testers who were not included in the first thumbnail size test. Also, this is a temporary change that will be happening later today, and the test will last for one week or less

We'd like to thank the Beta Testers who helped us test the thumbnail size changing tool! These tests help shape deviantART and we sincerly appreciate your participation and feedback!

In addition to the feedback we gathered from your comments on the size testing tool, this week we're going to continue our research by implementing a test that randomly assigns Beta Testers a different size for viewing thumbnails. 

During this time, the Beta Testers in this group will not have the ability to change the size at which thumbnails are viewed. The purpose of this test is so that we can monitor the browsing habits for each thumbnail size, to get a sense of how effective each size is; however, you are more than welcome to leave feedback here on the article.

If you would prefer not to take part in this test, feel free to turn beta testing off for the next week. Thumbnails will return to their standard size if you turn off beta testing during this test period.

Thanks for helping us in improving the deviantART experience!


In addition to the feedback we gathered from your comments on the size testing tool, this week we're continuing our research regarding thumbnail sizes by implementing another test for Beta Testers.
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astralsymphony Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually LOVED the 50% option- it appealed to my organizational side and I was able to view more at a time. I appreciate that we have the choice to zoom in/out as we please, now. I hope that stays, because I am a huge fan of viewing smaller thumbnails!
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Veroom Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I was expecting the test to last the full week, I feel a bit silly for not reading in greater detail.

Assuming this test included Firefox this time, my thumbnails must've been assigned to "100%" i.e. 300px width / 200px height.

So I can't really give feedback on that beyond what I've given in the past:

- Wide images get bigger thumbnails than thin images which is unfair.

- Galleries with thin images get *huge* gaps in grid mode, but also inexplicably in wall mode.

- Scrolling is now required and in large quantity. On a 1024x768 display galleries showing subfolders on the side get just one thumbnail per "row" which is pathetic.

- Unrelated to size, the addition of semi-transparent white backgrounds does nothing to help browsing and ruins images that are meant to have a transparent background.

- I suspect the 50% option in part 1 and assigned to people in part 2 uses a 100px limit, which is not comparable to the old thumbnails where it was 150px matching the width. I hope this test is not being used to suggest people who dislike 50% disliked the old thumbnails.

- If given the choice on a permanent basis I would absolutely take 75% as a preference from the options provided (or beyond that; a balanced setting of 200px width and height, which I currently resort to gallery CSS to provide).
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KittyMrowMrow Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It gave me the option for the sizes and I really don't mind either one, but the size I prefer is the 75% one.
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MidNightsCastedAngel Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student General Artist
WHEN is this going away I'm dying TOO SMALL...
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farahat25 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Very small, and large are the best
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Blackn-Yellow Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Well, I'm not even sure if I was included in the test, due to the fact that I just very recently opted to beta test, but it appears to me to be the same as always. I'm not getting much of a difference between the old thumbnail sizes and the test size, so it suits me. Then again, I'm quite easy to please, so perhaps this isn't the right test for me to provide feedback on. :p
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:iconnonamepaper:
NoNamePaper Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So this is why my browsing thumbs got so small...

Hate it, by the way.
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Kessima Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012   Digital Artist
I'm not sure what percent size I got, but whatever it is, it's tiny.
And I hate it.

The amount of graphic information on the first page of the site is overwhelming, and it's too small to see any of it.
Really, I can't focus on one thumbnail at a time because it's too tiny to really see what it is, and there's too much going on around it that swallows it up. I'm definitely browsing a lot less on the front page.

I really can't wait for this test to be over... :c
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:iconwreckling:
wreckling Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012   Writer
Hey there! This test will be ending by Friday, so if you want to turn off beta testing until the test period is over, you're more than welcome to. :)
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:iconkessima:
Kessima Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012   Digital Artist
Okay, thank you! =P
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:iconwolfayron:
WolfAyron Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student General Artist
I think I got the 50%. It's awful. The bigger, the better for me.
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Zixlesii Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student
Hmmm...50% size is too small to see. 75% Is much better as you can see what the picture is clearly.
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Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I can't say for certain that my thumbnails changed, but they look a bit smaller. It fits my resolution pretty good, but I don't mind the big ones either. Is there a way to tell which size has been assigned to me?
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Pascua-Tanya Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll have to wait for the change applies to all :(

One question: Did not do the same with the new page submit?. That is, change the groups to give opportunity to the other group (those who were not selected) to use the new page. That would be nice :)
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:iconnatalia-luz:
Natalia-Luz Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Too small, the bigger ones are better :|
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Everglaves Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
The thumbnails i've been assigned i think are too small. I'm assuming i've got 50%. They are tiny on my large monitor.
I personally don't like them at all, very impractical on a large screen like mine.
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Chironaila Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nothing is changed for me, but I like having the thumbnails on 75% :)
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Why can't we ALL just have the old-sized thumbnails back? It's the one change I've never gotten used to.
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:icondeus-nocte:
Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Because not everyone wants them. :/
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
True, but the option would be nice.
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:icondeus-nocte:
Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Certainly. Just saying everyone should be forced back to it is a bit much |D; I support having the option available.
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
What I meant was it seems that Beta testers (whatever that means, I'm no expert!) get the otion, while the rest of us don't, even if we pay a subcription as I do. Yes, the option would be a great idea. Hopefully something can happen in that direction.
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Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You actually have the option to be a beta tester if you like, since you're a premium member! It's an option in your settings. :) Basically it allows you to be a "test dummy" for DA's new features as they roll out. You get the equal sign by your name like me if you choose to participate.
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Veroom Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
But a significant portion clearly do so the option - something that these tests reveal to be possible - would be appreciated.
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Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Certainly. Just saying that "everyone should be forced back to the old thumbs" is just as bad as those who were forced to the new ones.

It seems like they're at least still working on the issue, despite saying the topic is closed.
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:iconveroom:
Veroom Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Well he only asked if we could all have it back, I don't see where he mentioned any exclusion of the others.
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:icondeus-nocte:
Deus-Nocte Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Just a difference in how we read his comment then. :) Saying we should all have it back doesn't imply an option to choose, to me.
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:iconveroom:
Veroom Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Agreed, since likewise it doesn't imply a forced removal of choice.
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Nine-MileStudios Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
After browsing a little bit, the thumbnails I've been assigned seem to be too big. The current size (for non-beta testers) are far better in my opinion. It takes far too long to scroll through everything and the empty area on either side of the deviations just seems to be wasted space.

With regards,
Hawkeye
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Shaleene1 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I very much prefer the small (50%) thumbnails.
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alexnart Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Roughly, the view I'm seeing is 144x102px for horizontal and 70x102px for vertical.

When I first switched onto the homepage and saw the small thumbnails, I was quite horrified to be honest! While it's nice seeing lots of images, it's much too crowded for me. One of the things I enjoy about dA is being able to see the quality in the work and having small thumbnails has diminished that quite a lot. Deviations with finer details I now pass over because the initial image is too small and it just looks like a blob (if you get what I mean; that was an awful explanation. xD)

I like the notion that people will be able to change the sizes of deviations to suit them. For me, I know I'll definitely go back to viewing slightly larger thumbs as this is just waay too small for my liking. :lol:
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Flazilla Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well well , I know a lot of deviants are saying to change the thumbnails because they are very small but me I continue to see them normal :)
But if they are so small that the people they said , I would love them in normal or large size . :D
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hyenacub Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can't tell if mine have changed or not. I assume not. LOL
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ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I assume it would be easy to check by toggling the beta tester switch.
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hyenacub Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hm good point. I think I will.
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ClaribeIle Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Filmographer
Hmm, the new thumbnails are not nice in my opinion, I don't know how it looks on lower resolution screens, but mine is 1920x1080 and it means I can't really see anything at all. They are so small, I prefered the other ones a lot more.
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YorukoChikokoro Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Well I got the tiny ones...sorry I don't like it. I preferred the big ones, it made it easier to just randomly go through the new or popular stuff on the home page.
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buneppu Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The thumbnails appear normal to me owo;;
I hope some great feedback comes from this test <3
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MajorasMasks Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
I guess I'm in the group since I can't change the thumbs size. At their current size, I prefer the Grid view, if it can helps (if I remember well, I always preferred the grid view anyway,t hough).
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Ata-Ur-Rehman Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hi, I don't like the current thumbnail style, because it's too small and difficult to see.
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MarcosRodriguez Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I like them bigger too.
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SilenceV Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
please change it back :(
the thumbs are too small now! it's not fun to browse like this!
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Interface Designer
This is just a test that will last about a week at most, if you don't want to be part of it you're welcome to turn off beta testing for the time being :)
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FollowingStars Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really really really dislike the new thumbnails! It's too crowded and you can't even really see the artwork properly. It just looks like a space saver to me, not good for the artists at all.
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GrauWeiss Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
I want my large thumbnails back. These are petit. ;)
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DakCar Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I have eyesight problems, so with the tiny thumbs my eyes get strained. :(
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Rio-a Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Also going to add (though I'm not sure if you'll read this or not), that even though you guys have said before that you won't give an option, that it'd be really awesome if you at least kept the zoom thing-y from the other test, so everyone can be happy, no matter what size they prefer ^^

The big thumbnails are too big for my screen and only show three per row, with lost of wasted space: [link]

There is too much scrolling, landscape pics are too big compared to others, and browsing is a pain for me without using the stylish script :(

So please please please consider it ;~;
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Interface Designer
They're definitely being read. :D

The wasted space there is mostly due to grid view - have you tried non-grid view too? What do you think of that? :)
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Rio-a Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
That's good to know ^^ Probably won't go in my favour, but at least there's some hope XD

Non-grid sometimes gives me four thumbs per row instead of three, so it's slightly better in that way, but the alignment drives me crazy and I get a headache after using it for a while :(
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Interface Designer
:highfive: all opinions are important. Thanks for the response!
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